Proofing God Exists: God’s Perfect Creation For Life Sustainability

Hello and welcome once again to another series of Proofing God Exists. In this discussion, I want to re-open once again about God ‘s creation. In this case, I want to talk about how the universe was allegedly created  for humans to live in.

So, let us evaluate the argument that is promoted by theists here. Theists argue that life is we know it is made in condition as such humans could live into. The reason why so far there are 7 billion of us in the world is that God made the Earth sustainable for us to live into. All the food, drink, and resources are provided for humans as a survival kit to live on Earth. It also argues that if Earth were to be positioned to be further away, it would not be sustainable for humans to live in.

Let’s take one of creationist’s argument, Ray Comfort. If you are not familiar with him, you can view his profile here. Ray Comfort explains that how banana is made with three ridges on the back and two ridges on the front, fit perfectly to human’s palm to grab. He also argues that the lid on the top of the banana makes it so easy for humans to peel off the banana without squirting its content. The rest of the argument can be observed here:

What Ray Comfort seems not to understand is that the banana that he used to demonstrate as a proof that God exist is a product of human’s cultivation. The original banana is stubby and filled with so many seeds inside. It is in fact by the process of forced evolution that we could get the banana edible and seedless as of today. And if banana was indeed a fruit that is meant for humans to consume because of the easiness in doing so, then what about coconuts and pineapple which are no meant for human’s hands to open the content inside.

Now let’s move on to how the universe is a perfect sustainable life for humankind. The argument that is put on the table is that God has designed Earth to be the only habitable place for humans to live into and one slight modification on the distance could cause all life to deteriorate.

When pursuit of knowledge is disregarded, one may believe to such notion. However, scientifically speaking, habitable zone can be calculated by the distance of a star where an Earth-like planet can maintain liquid water on its surface and potentially therefore, an Earth-like life. Take the fourth planet from the red dwarf star Gliese 581 that exist outside our Earth which is 20 light years distance from Earth. Due to its distance from the star, this planet maintains as a habitable zone to be close to have an Earth-like life. Although observation has yet to produce hard evidence of a life form on that planet, the knowledge of how this planet composed has led to a pursuable research of life other than Earth. However, maybe now you are complaining to my inclusion of a pending observation as a legitimate backup for my argument so let me purpose another complementary question for perfect creation for a sustainable life. If God is is powerful and has the ability to create everything that he deems fits, then he can create life forms that could survive by drinking uranium. Then, wouldn’t be a perfect creation something that is bias and could not be confirm?

It’s very easy to confuse something is God made when you don’t have sufficient knowledge about it. Human’s brain is susceptible to find a quick answer that is suitable for him when he encounters something that is unknown to him. Therefore, God is immediately put into the equation because he wants his assertion to be confirmed with his belief.

This is the exact opposite of how science works. We work by being sceptic first and find every contradicting evidence there is to find. Until the evidence has confirmed our theory, then it can be assured that the theory is reliable to be hold.

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12 responses to “Proofing God Exists: God’s Perfect Creation For Life Sustainability

  1. As we all know, I believe in god, nothing more, nothing less, simple as that, I’m the just the what-if guy blah blah blah, and some catholic folk I know have often came to me with the whole position of the Earth, sustainable for human life, 1-in-a-billion chance argument. Ever since I was a little kid (when my life was still innocent) I had already accepted the idea that space and the universe is infinite, that idea alone can make a 1-in-a-billion chance a 100% guarantee. Heh, sometimes I would joke with them that Earth was just gods middle-school science fair project…Zeus came in 2nd for his stupid baking-soda volcano.

    • As an atheist, I find nothing wrong with a personal belief in a deity as a suitable answer towards the unknown. Hell, the majority of my friends are of differing religious belief, primarily Christian.

      But I would like to offer you some friendly food for thought: The “one in a billion chance” argument is a logical fallacy, in that a “random cause” is completely irrelevant; life can only form in an environment capable to suit and sustain it, understand? If you have two jars — fill one jar with water and leave the other empty — and put a fish in each jar, which one will live the longest? Not only that, but how can we be so sure that our Earth is “one in a billion”? For instance, Saturn’s moon, Titan (as well as numerous others), is predominantly water; appropriate for conceiving even the most primitive of organisms. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the deep ocean and the zones associated with it, but life does not require energy from the sun as once hypothesized — the organisms of the deep sea have adapted to thrive in an environment completely void of even the faintest of sunlight — and this may hold true for not only Titan, but any planet and/or star with any body of water. Modern science and technology is our only limit to expanding our knowledge.

      I’ll tell you what though, I’d call the world we live in anything BUT “intelligent design”… Not only are people just astonishingly stupid to begin with, but things like disease are not necessarily befitting for a species to survive…

  2. Theres two extremes, people who believe in God to an unreasonable extent (blind faith, most have a VERY distorted view of what the Bible REALLY teaches btw), and people, very similar to you, who don’t believe in God (mainly due to the hypocrisy of religion), but they go to such extremes about it, that it takes more faith to not believe in a God, then to believe in one!

    Both views are wrong.

    I could take up a book talking about this, so I’m just gonna post a link. -.-
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/19990208/article_01.htm
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/201002a/article_01.htm

    • The quote of Albert Einstein is taken out of context that it is funny to be used as a proponent argument of grand design. We have already have an explanation about how DNA works and how it can links to the process of evolution. More and more quote mining that is taken out of context as I read the article.

  3. Hmm? Kazasou, your missing the bigger picture. There was more then one quote that I found weren’t taken out of context at all. In fact you can’t dismiss that MANY scientists believe in some kind of intelligent designer, coming to that conclusion from there research (Were talking about people who have Ph.D.’s and occupy positions at some of the better universities.) I find the explanation of DNA linking to evolution completely unsatisfactory. If you actually look at the theory of evolution unbiased, and NOT going with the crowd, its just very hard to believe, almost unreasonable even. Try it. In fact, all of proven science actually harmonizes with the Bible (yes even the creative “days”… Those days were not literal 24 hour days), really the only big theory that doesn’t harmonize with the Bible, is the theory of evolution, which again I find can be easily disproven if looked at unbiasedly. The biological world, is rife with evidence of intelligent design—evidence that points with near certainty to the intervention of an Intelligent Designer. Again, this is a big subject, but very meaningful. You need to take a look at all of the possibilities.

    I suggest looking at the book “Life How did it get here-By evolution or creation?” Also, there’s a good brochure I read once called “The Origin of Life-five questions worth asking” It takes a look at both sides, and weighs the scales.

    Here’s some more articles that delve even deeper into the subject that I found interesting as well:

    http://www.watchtower.org/e/19960122/article_01.htm
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/20040622/article_01.htm
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/200912/article_01.htm
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/201011/article_01.htm
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/19980622/article_01.htm
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/200609/article_01.htm
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000122/article_01.htm
    http://www.watchtower.org/e/20001008/article_01.htm

    http://www.watchtower.org/e/archives/index.htm#science

    Lol sorry for all the links, as said before I could take up a book talking about this so I’ll just post just some of the articles I liked. Again there are two extremes, one that doesn’t believe in God, and one that does Believe in God but to an unreasonable extent, who’s beliefs are based on tradition (aka Christendom lol)

    And with that, I take my leave. ;) Thanks for the wallpapers :D

    • “If you actually look at the theory of evolution unbiased, and NOT going with the crowd, its just very hard to believe, almost unreasonable even”, but earlier you said that I can’t dismiss that many scientists believe in some kind of intelligent designer.
      Albert Einstein fascination on how the world was created does not confirm his believe in God. In fact, he is a strong atheist which you can observe in his quotes:
      http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/einstein.htm
      Now, just because some scientists believe in God (which I count three in the links) does not confirm the existence of God. There is no hard evidence which prove that God exists so by scientific methodlogy terms, we have to say God is non-existence until further evidence come up.
      You said science confirms with the Bible and also confirms the creation of the universe according to the Bible? Then let’s debate in what way does science confirms with your teaching? I’m ready to debunk it. You keep saying evolution is unsatisfactory without pointing out what is unsatisfactory about the theory. Cite some sources or you are just bullshitting yourself.

  4. TAKE TIME TO READ. It’s worth reading it. Trust me :)

    Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

    Student : Yes, sir.

    Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

    Student : Absolutely, sir.

    Professor : Is GOD good ?

    Student : Sure.

    Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

    (Student was silent.)

    Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor: Is satan good ?

    Student : No.

    Professor: Where does satan come from ?

    Student : From … GOD …

    Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor: So who created evil ?

    (Student did not answer.)

    Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

    Student : Yes, sir.

    Professor: So, who created them ?

    (Student had no answer.)

    Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

    Student : No, sir.

    Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

    Student : No , sir.

    Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

    Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

    Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

    Student : Yes.

    Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

    Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

    Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

    Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

    Professor: Yes.

    Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

    Professor: Yes.

    Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

    (The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

    Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

    (There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

    Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

    Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

    Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

    Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

    Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

    Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

    Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

    Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

    Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

    Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

    (The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

    Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

    (The class was in uproar.)

    Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

    (The class broke out into laughter. )

    Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

    (The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

    Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

    Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

    P.S.

    I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?

    Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.

    By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.

    • Flawed! Evolution is not an opinion, we have empirical evidence which are transitional fossils and stuff. It’s the same as gravitation, you can’t see it, you can’t hear it. But you can always know that if you leap from tall buildings, you will fall to the ground. Now, if you believe there is God, what evidence could you present?

      And state the source if this conversation was done by Einstein. Einstein was a Jew, idiot.

  5. 1-The theory of evolution is definitely not true! God made us with His own image and not from apes. He considered us as His very special creation. He loves us all very much. and why would we believe on theories with no evidences?Your evidences are fake

    2-If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to an atheist or any person and then a question is asked, ” Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object? After little bit of thinking, he will reply, ‘the creator of that object.’ Some may say ‘the producer’ while others may say ‘the manufacturer.’ What ever answer the person gives, keep it in your mind, the answer will always be either the creator, the producer, the manufacturer or some what of the same meaning, i.e. the person who has made it or created it. Don’t grapple with words, whatever answer he gives, the meaning will be same, therefore accept it.

    • 1. Because reality is not defined by your preferences. And if you say that the evidence of evolution is fake, provide a counter evidence or your argument is just bullshit.

      2. Incorrect, we say there is a creator because there is evidence of a creator. A painting is deemed to have a painter because we have seen an evidence that a painting has a painter. We could re-produce painting by establishing a painter. If you believe every object has to have a creator, then who creates God?

  6. 1-First you prove Theory of evolution.It is a theory a hypothesis.It is not a law please prove it to me because i cant prove of evidence of theory which even doesn’t exist.The role of science is only to observe and describe the patterns that God places in His creation. If scientific observation shows a pattern in the evolution of species over time that can be described as natural selection, this is not in itself unbelief. It is only unbelief for a person to think that this evolution took place on its own, and not as a creation of God.Suppose i believe theory of evolution who was the person who cause this changes.ti is no one else but Almighty god.And please dont say science will Discover about this someday.LEAVE THE SOMEDAY TELL ME NOW.IF natural forces causes this Changes then tell me who is creator of natural forces.IT is also God.And please dont say science will Discover about this someday.LEAVE THE SOMEDAY TELL ME NOW.you are in fantasy and thinking that someone will tell me someday.Believe in today leave tomorrow.

    2-God will tell us about him on the day of Judgement(Doomsday)

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